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- [S1] Gabriel Drouin - Institut Genealogique Drouin, Genealogie De Benoit-Georges Hemond,Avocat, (Montreal,1942), 9th Generation, family # 209.
- [S24] Doryl@freeway.net, Langlois, Jack, langlois.jack.txt.
From: Doryl@freeway.net
Comments: Authenticated sender is
To: "L. H. Smith"
Date:Fri, 8 Jan 1999 05:49:39 -0600
Subject: Larry Re:Cote and Martin
Larry
You wrote
snip:
> Another point, did you say recently that at your local library they have all
> of the Jesuit Relations?
** There is a 72 volume set at the Public Library in
Petoskey,Michigan. It is also indexed and covers the period 1608-1680. The left side of
the page is in French and the right side is in English.They also have Charlevoix.
> Anne Martin's mother? I don't think it was Marguerite Langlois, from what
> Reginald Olivier says about the Martin arrival at Tadoussac in 1620. Do you
> have any ideas on these questions?
** Oliver like Tanguay had his share of errors,
. As far as Marguerite being the mother of Anne
you will find listed below a family group sheet including notes.
These notes show that the parents of Anne were in fact Abraham
Martin and Marguerite Langlois. Perhaps the seven volume writings of
Samuel D.Champlain would offer further prooof as Champlain
included Marguerite in his will.
a Bientot Jack Langlois
FAMILY GROUP RECORD FOR JEAN COTE/ANNE MARTIN
=========================================================================================================================
HUSBAND Jean COTE-1199
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BIRTH: PLACE: Mortagne,Perche,Orne,France
CHR.: PLACE:
MAR.: 17 Nov 1635 PLACE: Quebec,Pq
DEATH: 28 Mar 1661 PLACE: Quebec,Pq
BURIAL: PLACE:
Parent Link Type: ( )
FATHER: Unknown
MOTHER: Unknown
OTHER WIVES:
==========================================================================================================================
WIFE Anne MARTIN-1192
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BIRTH: 1613 PLACE: France
CHR.: PLACE:
DEATH: 4 Dec 1684 PLACE: Quebec,Pq
BURIAL: PLACE:
Parent Link Type: (B)
FATHER: Abraham dit L'Ecossais MARTIN [1Q]-1137
MOTHER: Marguerite LANGLOIS [1Q]-1136
OTHER HUSBANDS:
Parents' MRIN: 1559
==========================================================================================================================
CHILDREN
==========================================================================================================================
1. NAME: Louis(Louys) COTE-2819
Parent Link Type: (B)
--- BIRTH: 25 Oct 1635 PLACE: Quebec,Pq
M CHR.: PLACE:
MAR.: 6 Nov 1662 PLACE: Notre-Dame,Quebec,QC
DEATH: Bef 15 Dec 1669 PLACE: La Visitation,QC
BURIAL: PLACE:
SPOUSE: Elizabeth LANGLOIS-2810
MRIN: 1248
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2. NAME: Simone COTE-1140
Parent Link Type: (B)
--- BIRTH: 1637 PLACE: Quebec,Pq
F CHR.: PLACE:
MAR.: 1649 PLACE: Quebec
DEATH: PLACE:
BURIAL: PLACE:
SPOUSE: Pierre SOUMANDE-1197
MRIN: 495
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3. NAME: Martin COTE-2837
Parent Link Type: (B)
--- BIRTH: 12 Jul 1639 PLACE: Quebec,Pq
M CHR.: PLACE:
MAR.: 25 Jul 1667 PLACE:
Chateau-Richer,Montmorency,Pq
DEATH: 30 Aug 1710 PLACE: St-Pierre,I.O.,Pq
BURIAL: PLACE:
SPOUSE: Suzanne de Quercy PAGE-2838
MRIN: 1256
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4. NAME: Mathieu COTE-3700
Parent Link Type: (B)
--- BIRTH: 1642 PLACE: Quebec
M CHR.: PLACE:
MAR.: 1669 PLACE: St.Pierre I.O.,QC
DEATH: PLACE:
BURIAL: PLACE:
SPOUSE: Elizabeth GRAVEL-3705
MRIN: 496
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
5. NAME: Jean COTE-3702
Parent Link Type: (B)
--- BIRTH: 1643 PLACE: Quebec
M CHR.: PLACE:
MAR.: 1667 PLACE: Notre-Dame,Quebec
DEATH: PLACE:
BURIAL: PLACE:
SPOUSE: Anne COUTURE-3703
MRIN: 494
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6. NAME: Noel COTE-3701
Parent Link Type: (B)
--- BIRTH: 1645 PLACE: Quebec
M CHR.: PLACE:
MAR.: PLACE:
DEATH: PLACE:
BURIAL: PLACE:
SPOUSE: Helene GRATON-3704
MRIN: 497
----------------------------------------------------------
7. NAME: Louise (Louyse) COTE-3706
Parent Link Type: (B)
--- BIRTH: PLACE:
F CHR.: PLACE:
MAR.: 1663 PLACE: Notre-Dame,Quebec
DEATH: PLACE:
BURIAL: PLACE:
SPOUSE: Jean GRIGNON-3707
MRIN: 493
==========================================================================================================================
HUSBAND Jean COTE-1199
NOTES:
Source 1.
Histoire des Canadiens-Francais par Benjamin Sulte,Tome II
Pg.57 Jean Cote se maria,le 17 novembre 1635,a Quebec,avec Anne,fille
d'Abraham Martin,et s'etablit a l'ile d'Orleans,d'ou sa posterite s'est
repandue dans tous les lieux ou les Canadiens ont penetre,ce
qui veut dire par toute L'Amerique du Nord.He arrived in Quebec 1635.
Source 2. "Marriages of Notre-Dame,Quebec 1621-1900",by Benoit Pontbriand,pub
1978. Jean Cote(parents inconnu) maries 17 Nov 1635,a Anne Martin.
Source 3. "Genealogy of the families of the isle of
O'rleans" Jean Cote (parents unlisted) maries 1635 Quebec, a Anne Martin.
WIFE Anne MARTIN-1192
NOTES:
source Histoire des Canadiens-Francais,par Benjamin Sulte,Tome I et 2.
Abraham Martin et Marguerite Langlois were married vers 1613 in France.
Abraham came to Canada in 1614.Ils avaient une fille ,Anne,nee cette derniere
annee;Leur second enfant,Eustache was baptised at Quebec in 1621.
"Leur second enfant" definitly infers that Abraham et
Marguerite were the parents of Anne. Anne and her mother
arrived in Quebec in 1620.
CHILD 1 Louis(Louys) COTE-2819
NOTES:
Source "Marriages of Notre-Dame,Quebec 1621-1900",Louys Cote son of
Jean and Anne Martin,maries 6 Nov 1662, a Elisabeth Langlois daughter
of Noel and Francoise Grenier.
CHILD 2 Simone COTE-1140
NOTES:
Source 1. "Marriages of Notre-Dame,Quebec 1621-1900".
Simone Cote daughter of Jean and Anne Martin,
maries 16 Nov 1649,a Pierre Soumande.
2. "1667 census of Quebec". Simone Coste age 30,Pierre Soumande
age 50,her husband, 8 Children listed.
CHILD 3 Martin COTE-2837
NOTES:
Source 1. "Genealogy of the families of the isle of
O'rleans",par abbe Michel Forgues,Prete. Martin Cote son of
Jean and Anne Martin maries 1667
Chateau Richer,QC,a Susanne Page.
CHILD 4 Mathieu COTE-3700
NOTES:
Source 1. "Genealogy of the families of the isle of
O'rleans". Mathieu Cote son of Jean and Anne Martin,maries 1669
St.Pierre,I.O.QC, a Elizabeth Gravel.
CHILD 5 Jean COTE-3702
NOTES:
Source 1. "Marriages of Notre-Dame,Quebec 1621-1900",by
Benoit Pontbriand,Pub 1978. Jean Cote son of Jean and Anne
Martin (Beauport),maries
11 Nov 1669,a Anne Cousture.
CHILD 6 Noel COTE-3701
NOTES:
Source "Genealogy of the families of the isle of O'rleans".
Noel Cote son of Jean and Anne Martin,maries(date and
place not listed but probably S.P. I.O.)
CHILD 7 Louise (Louyse) COTE-3706
NOTES:
Source 1. "Marriages of Notre-Dame,Quebec 1621-1900".
Louyse Cote daughter of Jean and Anne Martin,maries 4 Nov
1663,a Jean Grignon.
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- [S25] JHostage@aol.com, Hostage, Jackie, hostage.jackie.txt.
From: JHostage@aol.com
Date:Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:14:08 -0600
To: quebec@listserv.northwest.com
Subject: Re: Larry Re:Cote and Martin
Sender: owner-quebec@genweb.net
Several years ago there was an extensive thread on the Compuerve forum that
convinced me that Anne MARTIN was not the daughter of Abraham MARTIN. That,
combined with the information in Trudel's Catalogue des immigrants, that she
had arrived in 1635 with her father, Galleran MARTIN, led me to remove any
relationship between Anne and Abraham from my files. (I am still related to
Abraham through his other daughter, Marie.)
Here is the listing from Trudel (sorry about the lack of accents but I wasn't
sure how well they would "travel"):
MARTIN, Galleran
56, veuf, decede a Beauport 27 Oct. 1662 et inhume le meme jour a Quebec
(serait venu avec la suivante en 1635)
MARTIN, Anne, fille du precedent
32, ne signe, marraine 18 juil. 1635 (premiere apparition), epouse le 17 nov.
suivant Jean Cote; veuve en 1661; inhumee a Quebec 4 dec. 1684.
I'm attaching a message I had saved that contains some strong arguments. (I
believe it was probably written by Jean-Rene Cote who has studied this issue
so much.) Would love to hear from anyone who has any new finds.
Jackie Hostage/VA
GIROUX, JOYAL dit LAFRENIERE, DANIS, RAYMOND, PELLETIER, PINSONNEAU, HERTEL,
TRUDEAU, many others.
Forum: The Genealogy Section: Canadian Genealogy
Subj: COTE/MARTIN
Those who are writing that Anne Martin married with Jean Cote was the daughter
of Abraham have no proof of it - It is the same for those who are writing that
Jean Cote was from Mortagne au Perche.
Leon Roy, a major historian published in the " Bulletin des Recherches
Historiques ", Vol. 49 ( 1943, pages 203-204 ) " Anne Martin, epouse de Jean
Cote " or : why Anne Martin was not the daughter of Abraham.
Here is a short abstract of Leon Roy's publication :
Anne Martin and Marguerite Langlois ( Abraham's known wife ) were of the same
age, may be 3 or 4 years difference.
Results of the study of Miss Jeanne Desilets of the Archives of the Province of
Quebec prove that Anne was not the daughter of Abraham Martin.
There is no mention of Anne Martin before 1635. She probably arrived at the
same time than Jean Cote.
The witnesses at the marriage of Anne Martin and Jean Cote were Robert Giffard
and Guillaume Couillard : Abraham should had been there if Anne was his
daughter.
Anne Martin and Jean Cote were never presents or mentioned at the marriage
contracts of Abraham's daughters or at any contract concerning Abraham Martin..
At the inventory after death of Abraham Martin ( Notary Duquet, october 7, 1664
) the heritage was for half to Marguerite Langlois and for the other half to
their six children. No mention of Anne Martin marr. with Jean Cote
Marguerite Langlois, widow of Abraham Martin married Rene Branche, feb. 17,
1665 and was buried 10 months later. In a contract between the heirs and Rene
Branche, at Notary Becquet, april 22nd 1666, there is no mention of Anne Martin
.
My conclusion, Robert, is that If those evidences do not satisfied the most
sceptics, it is difficult to understand how some authors may write without any
proof or evidence that Anne Martin was the daughter of Abraham.
- [S968] Jacqueline, François et Stéphane Côté, Notre Ancetre Jean Coste, (http://association-cote.com/2011/index.php/jean-coste-lancetre/), ancetre_jean_coste.pdf.
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